Menubalk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

update: 22-04-2014

Back to Historie

 

Back to Builders page

 

Schiedmayer

Schiedmayer Main page

Schiedmayer History

Hoflieferant in Holland

Schiedmayer_Physharmonica

Schiedmayer 200 Years

Schiedmayer Celebration

Schiedmayer_Eyewittnes_Report

Schiedmayer-Wendlingen

Schiedmayer Dominator

Schiedmayer Celesta Resonators

Schiedmayer-Hlavac Harmoniums

Schiedmayer-Church-Harmoniums

Schiedmayer in Heiloo NL

Schiedmayer - Johann Lorenz

Schiedmayer - J & P Harmoniums

Schiedmayer Live Concert 2009

Schiedmayer Exhibition 1881

Schiedmayer Johann Chr. Georg

Schiedmayer Celebration 2011

Schiedmayer Serial Numbers

Joseph_Schleier_Brazilien

3M-Harmonium-Celesta-Suction

Schiedmayer Flügel_1900

Schiedmayer 300 Jahre & Liszt

Schiedmayer Archive Research

Max Schiedmayer

Erlanger Heimatbuch 1925

Dominator-Parabrahmorgel

Fritsche Patent Dominator

Factory Buildings Schiedmayer

Schiedmayer-Manteldach

 

Catalogi / Catalogs Schiedmayer

 

 

BOOK ON SCHIEDMAYER

 

Concept of outline

 

 

 

 

 

A rare church harmonium in the USA

On a previous page you might have seen the 'Heiloo Schiedmayer', a single manual instrument. To refresh your mind this picture:

Behind the organist is Rev. Jacob Spaans

Craigslist sale: $ 100

On Craigslist, only a few weeks ago, early June 2010, a two manual Schiedmayer was for sale in Seattle, Washington for a mere (or even lousy) one hundred dollars/bucks. About the amount one spills on gas in Washington state to find a nice place to have a picknick, should one be the proud owner of a Hummer.

The seller provided me with some pictures. But no stoplist. The lovely lady deleted the original pictures because the harmonium was sold within a weeks time. So we are limited by the size of the available compressed pictures. However, harmonium fans are known to settle with even thumbnails, just to see what the fuzz is about.....

 
     
     
     
     
     

The e-Bay sale $ 5,900

In the mean time (july 2010) the instrument has been moved from Seattle to the sunny side of the United States, also known as Schwarzenegger County. The major financial deficit of this state seems to be the cause of hyper inflation. It now resides in a showroom, to be sold.

 

Sharing the specs

For new vistitors to this website, a short explanation. Harmonium afficionados have a tendency to greet you in a kind of shy mode. They hardly whisper when saying: 'goodmorning'. However, these afficionados know about expression, and the next they say is really outspoken and loud: "What is in this beast?" With that they refer to a subspecies of arousal, they are only interested in one answer: 'how many reeds are in there'. Soon you will learn to adapt to this tendency.

The specs of the instrument in the words of the present Californian seller sounds like the following statement. In fact, it is his statement quoted.

     
 

I recently purchased this Schiedmayer Dominator harmonium / reed organ. It might actually be the largest European kunstharmonium ("art harmonium") in the United States.

  • 43-ranks, 22 on the top manual and 21 on the bottom manual.
  • SIX (6) octaves!!! If you know of a bigger European harmonium in the USA, let me know.

 

I challenge you to find another six octave European harmonium anywhere in the United States. FYI, this is not a celesta harmonium, and it uses positive pressure.

It needs restoration. I have it here for sale for a very low (and it won't go lower) price of $5900, but unless it sells during this one-time listing, I plan to keep it and have it restored. It is sold as-is, no returns, obviously.

In the meantime, I would love to hear referrals to reed organ repair people on the west coast.

Please note that the shipping cost is an estimate, and it could be as much as $500 more or $700 less, depending on location in the United States.

 
     

 

The specs again

Regular visitors know. Harmonium stops have a name and a number. Par exemple: A stop numbered in the treble part as 1 and the same in the bass numbered 1 are two half ranks, or a full rank over the whole of the keyboard. Although the pictures are not the clearest you have seen on this website, the highest number I have found on the stopfaces is 12, on both bass and treble.
Hence, as a selfproclaimed guru I herewith testify this instrument seems to have 12 full ranks (or American style: 24 sets.
To make it sound bigger :-).

The stoplist given by the seller

The ebay page initially showed an incomplete stoplist. The picture(s) shows that the stopfaces are white and pink. The white ones belong to the upper manual, the pink ones are for the lower manual. Since we have now slightly better pictures of the stoprail, we are able to write the stoplist according the colours used.

 

The upper row of stops, from left to right:   The lower row of stops, from left to right:
0 FORTE OB. MAN
P PROLONG. 16' DOUX
12 PROLONGEMENT 16'
P PROLONG. 8' DOUX
11 PROLONGEMENT 8'
10 VIOLON 8'
9 DULCIANA 8'
C CELESTE 8'
8 HARPE-EOLIENE 2'
7 BASSON 8'
G GRAND-JEU OB. MAN
C COPULA OB. MAN
7 FAUTBOIS
8 FLAGEOLET 4'
C CELESTE 8'
9 VIOLA 8'
10 SAXOPHON 8'
11 PROLONGEMENT 8'
P PROLONGE. S'DOUX
12 PROLONGEMENT 16'
P PROLONG 16 'DOUX
0 FORTE OB. MAN.
  P PROLONG AUTOMAT
6 VIOLINCELL 8'
(BLANK)
4 BASSON 8'
(BLANK)
D DOLCE 8'
3 VOIX HUMAINE 8'
2 BOURDON 16'
I CORANGLAIS 8'
P PERCUSSION
G GRAND-JEU UNT MAN
(BLANK) EXPRESSION NOT MENTIONED
P PERCUSSION
I FLUTE 8'
(BLANK)
3 VOIX CELESTE
F FAGOTT 8'
0 FORTE UNT. MAN
4 HAUTBOIS 8'
5 FIFRE 4'
6 CREMONA 8'

 

 

Left side of stoprail

Right side of stoprail.

An educated analysis.

Thanks to Robert Allan, Jim Tyler and Casey Pratt, all of them contributed to create the full stoplist. We now at least have the stopnames. And in order to enhance the clarity of the stoplist, I have taken the liberty to change it from our normal methods (all stops from left to right). By reversing the order in the treble, the counterparting stops in bass and treble are more ease to understand. Mechanical aid stops - as the many prolongements - are in italics. I have added a column showing the ranks in a stop, in my opinion. An opinion without proper prove at the moment.
Upper manual Celestes, are they double reeds? Or are they a combination of stop C & stop 9.

When double reeds in Celestes as I believe, the counting of ranks would finally be 14 bass ranks and 14 treble ranks.
And than - should I be right - it seems to be the biggest manuals only, footpumped harmonium I know of at the moment.
So, please, you knowledgeables in the harmonium world, please fight my statements on this.

 

Keyboard 6 octaves FF-f4

Upper row:  White stops - upper manual and upper reed chest (7:6 ranks?):

 

Bass (left to right)

rks 

 

 

Treble ( right to left)

rks 

O

Forte

 

 

O

Forte

 

P

Prolong 16' doux **

 

 

P

Prolong 16' doux **

 

12

Prolong 16' **

 

 

12

Prolong 16' **

 

P

Prolong 8'doux

 

 

P

Prolong 8' doux

 

11

Prolong 8'

 

 

11

Prolong 8'

 

10

Violon 8'

1

 

10

Saxophone 8'

1

9

Dulciana 8'

1

 

9

Viola 8'

1

C

Celeste 8' [ II rks or C+9?]

2

 

C

Celeste 8' [ II rks or C+9?]

2

8

Harpe Eolienne 2' [ II rks]

2

 

8

Flageolet 4'

1

7

Basson 8'

1

 

7

Hautbois 8'

1

G

Grand Jeu (pink)

 

 

C

Copula Ob Man (pink)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lower row: Pink stops - lower manual and lower reed chest (7:8 ranks?):

 

Bass (left to right)

 

 

 

Treble ( right to left)

 

P

Prolong automat

 

 

 

 

 

6

Violoncell 8'

 

 

6

Cremona 8'

1

5

Missing stopface 4’

1

 

5

Fifre 4'

1

4

Basson 8'

1

 

4

Hautbois 8'

1

O

Forte

 

 

O

Forte

 

D

Dolce 8'

1

 

F

Fagott 8'

1

3

Voix Humaine 8'

2

 

3

Voix Celeste 8'

2

2

Bourdon 16'

1

 

2

Clarinette 16'

1

1

Cor Anglais 8'

1

 

1

Flute 8'

1

P

Percussion

 

 

P

Percussion

 

G

G Grand Jeu

 

 

E

Expression (stopface missing)

 

On lower manual stops 1, 2, 5 and 4 create the classic Grand Jeu

** The upper manual has no 16 stops. The prolongement 16 is only possible when an bass coupler is used in this mechanical setup.

The various prolongements on upper manual

To explain this plethora of prolongement stops, first we turn to the Schiedmayer Dominator harmonium. First of all, on this type of harmonium, there are 3 toggle switches above the stops.

Toggles

Picture: Frans vand er Grijn at the Werkstatte of Markus Lenter Orgelbau

These toggles are 'limiters'. Violon 16' drawn and the toggle off, sounds C-e'. When toggle on it only sounds at C-H. Aeolsharfe sounds C-e', but when 'toggled' in only sounds (tenor) c-e' (without the lowest octave, that is). Bourdun sounds C-e', toggled only C-H.

About the same is done with the many prolongements on this church harmonium. First of all there is a Prolongement Automat. The main on/off switch. All other "Prolong stops" only work when Prolong Automat is drawn.

And when the masterswitch is on: the player can use prolongement on a full blown 16, or a softer 16. The same on an 8' stop.

What we don't know at the moment: Are these gizmos purely mechanical, or are the tubular pneumatic? Please be aware that Schiedmayer in those years was closely connected with the Weigle firm, one of the pioneers in tubular pneumatic systems in pipe organs.

Where do the Prolongements work? Please notice that when we should think they work on upper manual, that no 16' stops are available on the upper manual. Does that mean the 16' is created by a bass coupler? Remember the keyboard compass of 6 octaves, starting at FF at the bottom note. Or is it that when using prolongements, the player will use the upper manual ONLY, while the prolonged voices are in reality lower manual stops sounding?

Oh, if only I were a rich man, I would travel to California to investigate with guys like Louis and Jim, dissamble the beast and rebuild it.... just to know all the answers we don't have at the moment.

Restorer needed

On july 21st I was informed that a restorer is needed. An advert is now online.

 

http://barton.theatreorgans.com/selectedad.asp?ID=20094

Want to Sell: Restoration needed for Schiedmayer Dominator organ
Category: Electronic Organs and Parts

Expert needed to restore rare Schiedmayer Dominator 42-stop double-manual harmonium / reed / pump organ. It is definitely one of the largest European harmoniums in the United States, if not the largest. I would prefer someone for the job who has repaired several Schiedmayer, Mustel, Pere, or other kunstharmoniums / art-harmoniums. If you have any recommendations or referrals, especially in California, I would love to hear them. I am located near UCLA, in Los Angeles. This organ is not for sale unless you can offer at least $6000 for it in as-is condition. Thank you, Mitch Manger 310-463-6737

 

Asking: $1000-3000

Restoration

Today, August 18, I have been informed that the instrument is now taken care of by mr. Kent Arnold. In due time we hope to have a few more pictures. When finished we will have a new stoplist, explaining the Prolongements and the Celeste stops.

One important fact has been established by now. This instruments has 13,5 ranks in total (where 'rank' refers to the full six octaves.